China In-Depth

Sunday, July 09, 2006

Canadian Report and Reaction To The Statement Of Government Of China

  • Canadian Report and Reaction To The Statement Of Government of China (audio)





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    This is Catherine Hennessy reporting China In-Depth for Sound of Hope Radio. The following recording is made in a press conference held at Canada’s Parliament Hill with guest speakers David Matas and David Kilgour. David Matas is an immigration, refugee and international human rights lawyer in private practice in Winnigeg. David Kilgour is a former member of Parliament and former Secretary of State of the Government of Canada for the Asia Pacific region. Both of them are the authors of a 45-page report released on July 6, 2006 entitled “Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China”. This independent investigation is result of weeks of research, evidence verification, and witness interviews. To read this report please visit web site address theepochtimes.com.

    Right after the release of this report, David Matas and David Kilgour have noticed that the Government of China released a statement in response to this report on the same day. David Matas and David Kilgour have responded their reactions to this statement. To down load 45-page long report and the reponses to the statement, please visit the following links:
    http://investigation.redirectme.net/
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-7-6/43626.html

    This is Catherine Hennessy reporting China In-Depth for Sound Of Hope Radio.



    Response of David Kilgour and David Matas to the Chinese
    government statement

    July 7, 2006
    The Government of China released a statement in response to our report titled Report into
    Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China dated July 6, 2006. The
    statement can be found at . We have these reactions
    to this statement:

    1. The statement of the Government of China was released the same day as our Report. The
    statement of the Government of China dismisses our Report out of hand. We view this reaction
    is unconsidered. It means that the Government of China has engaged in no investigations to
    determine whether or not what the report contains is true.
    2. The statement of the Government of China begins with the phrase
    "In order to extricate itself from an awkward position after its lie about "Sujiatun
    Concentration Camp" has been laid bare, Falun Gong has shifted..."
    This phrase is incorrect in a number of different ways. First, it suggests that our Report is a
    Falun Gong report. Yet, it is not. We are not Falun Gong practitioners. We did this report as
    volunteers and were not paid for this report by Falun Gong or anyone. Our report represents
    our own judgment. We have not acted on the instructions of Falun Gong or anyone else in
    coming to the conclusions we did.

    3. The assertions about Sujiatun Concentration Camp to which the Chinese statement refers
    originated from the ex-wife of a surgeon at Sujiatun Hospital. This person is not a Falun Gong
    practitioner. This person has not changed or shifted her story at any time. David Kilgour
    interviewed her. An excerpt of the interview can be found at Appendix 13 of our report.
    4. It is our own opinion, expressed in our report, that this woman was not lying. We concluded
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    that she was credible.

    5. In our report we did not rely on this witness alone to come to our conclusions. In our
    report, this is what we said about the testimony of this witness:
    "The testimony of the wife of the surgeon allegedly complicit in Falun Gong organ
    harvesting seemed credible to us, partly because of its extreme detail. However, that
    detail also posed a problem for us, because it provided a good deal of information which
    it was impossible to corroborate independently. We were reluctant to base our findings
    on sole source information. So, in the end, we relied on the testimony of this witness
    only where it was corroborative and consistent with other evidence, rather than as sole
    source information."

    Our report is not a shift from what this witness says, but rather an expansion, with a larger
    focus than just Sujiatun Hospital.


    6. The Chinese statement then says:
    "It is obvious that their purpose is to smear China's image." We reply that we have no wish to
    smear China's image. Our sole concerns are respect for the truth and human rights.
    7. The Chinese statement then says:
    "China has consistently abided by the relevant guiding principles of the World Health
    Organization endorsed in 1991, prohibiting the sale of human organs and stipulating that
    donors' written consent must be obtained beforehand and donors are entitled to refuse
    the donation at last minute."
    This statement was belied by the facts. The China International Transplantation Network
    Assistance Centre Website until April of this year set out a price list for transplants. The price
    list was removed from the website in April, but is still archived. To see the web site now, go to
    . To see the archived site, go to

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    http://archive.edoors.com/render.php?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fen.zoukiishoku.com%2Flist%2Fco
    st.htm+&x=16&y=11.
    As well, many individuals can attest to paying for organ transplants in China.


    8. The statement that China has consistently abided by the principle stipulating that donors'
    written consent must be obtained beforehand is also belied by the facts. Human Rights Watch
    has reported that consent is obtained from executed prisoners in only a minority of cases. The
    organization writes that even in this minority of cases
    "the abusive circumstances of detention and incarceration in China, from the time a
    person is first accused of a capital offense until the moment of his or her execution, are
    such as to render absurd any notion of "free and voluntary consent."

    Organ Procurement and Judicial Execution in China, August 1994

    9. The China statement goes on to say:
    "China has issued a regulation on human organ transplants, explicitly banning the sale of
    organs and introducing a set of medical standards for organ transplants in an effort to
    guarantee medical safety and the health of patients. The regulation requires medical
    institution which is qualified for practising human organ transplant to register at
    provincial level health department. Unregistered medical institutions are forbidden to
    practice human organ transplant. If the government finds any registered institution
    violating the regulation, it will cancel the registration and punish the people responsible."
    We acknowledge that this is so, and wrote about it in our Report. We also noted that this
    legislation came into force only a few days ago on July 1st. It is not an answer to our findings
    about what happened before that date. Moreover, in China, there is a huge gap between
    enacting legislation and enforcing it.

    10. The Government of China then writes:
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    "It is very clear that Falun Gong's rumour has ulterior political motives."
    None of our findings are based on rumour. Every finding we make is sourced and
    independently verifiable.


    11. The China statement then says:
    "Therefore, the so-called "independent investigation report" made by a few Canadians
    based on rumours and false allegations is groundless and biased. We do believe that lies
    are always lame, and will never become the truth even if being repeated 1000 times. We
    hope that the Canadian people will not be deceived by the disguise of the Falun Gong,
    and more people will be aware of the nature of "Falun Gong" as an evil cult."
    This conclusion is an attack both on us and Falun Gong. The Report has to be judged on its
    merits. Attacking its authors is not an appropriate response.


    Second calling the Falun Gong an evil cult exemplifies the vilification heaped on the Falun
    Gong. It is this sort of slander which, in China, depersonalizes and dehumanizes the Falun
    Gong and makes possible the violation of their basic human rights.
    Calling a group of innocent civilians an "evil cult" is a form of incitement to hatred,
    unacceptable in Canada. It is an abuse of their diplomatic presence in Canada for China to
    engage in this form of incitement.


    For more information, please contact: David Kilgour: (613) 747-7854;
    David Matas: (204) 944-1831

    A full copy of the report can be obtained at:

    http://investigation.redirectme.net/

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